"Rule is the normal exercise of authority, and is always
based on public opinion ... never has anyone ruled on this earth
by basing his rule essentially on any other thing than public
opinion."
- The Revolt of the Masses by Jose Ortega y Gasset
Q=Question
A=Answer
Q: The European countries were expecting the Iranian Foreign
Minister, AHAKBAR Velayati, to live up to his promise in officially
announcing the abrogation of Salman Rushdie's death fatwa and
that they ( the Islamic Republic I will not dispatch anyone to
kill him. Nonetheless, they later went on to state thatAyatollah
Khomeyni's fatwa is immutable. What is your view in this regard?
A: The Islamic Republic has always portrayed an image that needs
w be viewed with skepticism and distrust. Furthermore, one does it otlatow. who the real decision maker is in this regime. What is obvious
however, is that "Khomeyniism" has been the prevailing
ideology and modus operandi among the ruling clergy and thus,
they cannot function outside of this cause and effect, in like
manner that fish are incapable of living outside of water. On
the other hand, the Europeans which primarily due to their commercial
interests, have taken a "deaf & dumb" stance towards
the Islamic Republic, are once again reminded of the bitter fact
that the nature of this regime is incapable of reform. The clerical
regime is not a "Government", it is neither a "Republic"
nor is it "Islamic" and finally, it has no kinship with
"Iran". Usually, in a government, the decision making
element_% are known, but there, this notion becomes an enigma.
Velayati says that he will write a memo clarifying that no-one
will be dispatched to kill Rushdie, but Vaezi, his deputy, contradicts
the Foreign Minister. Above the post of the President, is the
"Supreme Theologian" who could nullify all the decisions
made by the former. In addition, none of the acts or behaviors
of this regime could possibly fit into any Islamic framework.
They have, in the past 16 years proved that their thoughts, deeds
and their words are distinctly anti-Iranian. One could, beyond
a shadow of a doubt, characterize the clerical regime as the synergy
of these three terms: IGNORANCE, MURDER and TREASON. Such a regime,
is undoubtedly incapable of reform and ought not to be trusted.
It would not yield to the notion of free-elections. Those who
adhere to the theory of reform ( for this regime ], are quite
far from reality. The one and only solution is the replacement
of this regime with a democratic one.
Q: Some are supporting the recent U.S. sanctions towards Iran
and some are not. What is your opinion ?
A: We analyzed and discussed these sanctions in our June issue
of "Focus On Iran", which is the publication of the
AZADEGAN FOUNDATION. The blame, first and foremost lies with the
tyrannical regime in Tehran, which through its belligerent behavior
has brought about the enmity of most nations. For over 16 years
the people of Iran have been under severe economical, political,
cultural sanctions of the Islamic Republic. These internal sanctions
are extended to people's freedom of speech, breathing, eating
and even clothing! Iranians now, after the imposition of the U.S.
sanctions, are in essence, under "dual" sanctions. The
responsibility for this dilemma, lies with the so-called Islamic
regime and its near-sighted
imbecilic leaders.
The persistent violation of human rights inside
Iran, its support of international terrorism and radical cliques,
opposition to the peace process in the Middle-East, the propagation
of a "revolutionary Islam" and efforts in gaining and
producing nuclear arms, have all been elements in the political
isolation of the regime and finally in bringing about the U.S.
sanctions. It must be noted that any economical pressure intended
for the clerical regime, will have an impact on the maltreated
and tyrannized people of Iran. The pressure of this recent sanction
then, will be directly felt by the populace who, now more than
ever, would face financial hardships.
Thus, no one could be joyful
about these issues. On the other hand, one must keep in mind that
these hardships are solely created by the Islamic Republic. The
oil income of the Islamic Republic in the past 16 years has been
in excess of 250 billion dollars ( 5250,000,000,000 ). This enormous
sum has not been put to redress any essential issue. And today,
the Iranian people, due to the ill-management of the clerical
regime, have become the "poorest oil rich nation" in
history. The leaders of the Tehran regime have wasted this national
treasure in their short-sighted pursuits, namely in purchasing
out-dated armaments, seeking nuclear arms, propagating a "revolutionary
Islam" , and in politically and financially supporting terrorist
groups around the world, especially in Lebanon and Palestine.
Perhaps the sanctions by the U.S. or better put, the "additional
/ doubled" sanctions would act as the awakening thrust for
the people of Iran to unite in ousting this totalitarian and bellicose
regime. Any other discussion, however, about the perceived benefits
or detriments of the sanction is needless and unfruitful. The
only effective path, is the unity of the Iranian people in dismissing
the clerical regime and its current Constitution which has been
the cause of numerous hardships and dead-ends. The persistence
of the mullahs' regime is not only economically detrimental to
Iran, but it could also impact the national and cultural security
and the territorial integrity of Iran in an irreparable way.
Q: These days one could hear the inauspicious tunes of separatism
and local secessionism from all directions. Keeping the recent
events and the actions of the regime in sight, what are your beliefs
about such issues?
A: The most evident disgrace of this regime is in its weakening
of the Iranian nationalism and in the danger that it poses to
the Iranian cultural continuation. In Iran, as you witness, Islamic
Republic has replaced the institution of Monarchy. Namely, religion
has substituted the kingship, but due to the erroneous exegesis
of religion, rendered by the Islamic Republic, and the corruption
and endless tyranny of its leaders, religion has lost its veneration
and esteem. In Iran, the people and especially the youth have
lost their hope. They are not placing their trust in any institution.
This, in turn has created a political and intellectual vacuum
in our nation. Poverty coupled with numerous psychological pressures
and the vision of a dark hopeless future, has increased the vulnerability
of the Iranian people especially the young ones, towards foreign
propaganda and even separatism. This kind of susceptibility is
quite dangerous to the national unity of Iran. Iranians, throughout
history, in times of tyranny, dissatisfaction and the weakness
of the central government, have always possessed a centrifugal
force. The current regime is detested more than any other regime
in the history of Iran. Almost all layers of the Iranian society
are discontented with the clerical regime and this should be a
grave concern for all patriotic Iranians. Meanwhile and regrettably,
Islamic Republic has turned a deaf ear to this issue and is totally
unaware of the perilous consequences of the problems created by
its misguided policies and, since political and ideological systems
such as socialism and communism, have lost their
esteem and importance, social pressures and discontent could in
fact play the tunes of separatism in some ears.
The notion of
"self-government for all nationalities" set forth by
Woodrow Wilson at the end of WW I, also fuels the separatist sentiments.
Specifically, the passage of the U.N. Security Council resolution
no. 688, on April 5, 1991, at the end of the Desert Storm War,
for the first time empowers the U.N. and in essence the super-powers,
to alter the territorial integrity of other nations under an altruistic
mandate. Therefore, the independence and the territorial integrity
of Iran necessitates that this regime surrender to a democratic
and powerful government which could in turn enjoy the support
and contentment of all layers of the people. In this regard, the
Armed Forces including the regular Army and the Revolutionary
Guards, who protected the independence and security of our nation
against the Iraqi incursion, ought to be more alert than ever.
They must recognize the fact that the internal and external policies
of this regime have jeopardized the territorial integrity of Iran.They
should refuse to be the military arm of a clique who wishes to
bring about the decay of the Iranian nation.
Q: Explain the role of the Armed Forces now that you mentioned
them.
A: The heroic defense of the Iranian Armed Forces, including the
Regular, the Revolutionary Guards and the Basijis against the
Iraqi incursion, is indeed commendable and praiseworthy. With
the exception of a minor segment who still continues to be the
repressive arm of the regime in performing its anti-Iranian aims,
these forces are nationalistic and are committed to Iran. They
have realized that they are not to become the mere tools in carrying
out the ill-wishes of a handful of greedy and despotic mullahs.
The interests of the Iranian people and that of its Armed Forces
which have historically been nationalistic and patriotic, does
not coincide with those of a regime which is an advocate of so-called
"pan-Islamism". Control of the Armed Forces by these
mullahs, who lack the most basic strategic and national concepts,
impairs the spirit of the former. Nonetheless, the gap between
the clergy and the Armed Forces started from the Qazvin uprising
and, has been widening by the day. The extent of this ideological
rupture reached such levels that among all the qualified officers,
Ayatollah Khamenei had to appoint a veterinary surgeon, Dr. Hasan
Firooz-Abadi, to the post of the Chief of Staff and assign a 9
year seniority to his rank. This action, attests to the fact that
the clerical leaders do not trust the Army, and a crisis of reliance
is extant. I believe that for the sake of safeguarding the territorial
integrity of our nation and for the sake of its national interest,
the Armed Forces must direct their loyalty from the mullahs to
the people. This re-direction of loyalty from one power to a new
one has historical precedence in Iran.
Q: What do you make of these recent visits between the Iraqi
and Islamic Republic missions?
A: Islamic Republic is the one seeking these arrangements with
the Iraqis. Of course, secret collusions between the two countries
have been going on for over a year now and, have intensified after
the announcement of the recent sanctions. Iraq and Islamic Republic
see eye to eye in certain issues such as their opposition to the
Middle East peace process, their stance against U.S., Saudis and
moderate states, and finally their common resistance against the
economic sanctions. However, on the issue of war reparations,
POWs, the return of the Iraqi planes which were flown to Iran
during the Desert Storm, and the activity of the People's Mojahedin
of Iran (PMOI) in Iraqi soil, have differences which have remained
unresolved. Islamic Republic would not hesitate to disregard national
issues when it comes to its own survival.
This is evident from
the fact that these recent arrangements are made with the Iraqis,
despite the fact that the latter's incursion has caused the loss
of life of 500,000 Iranians, has left another million maimed and
injured and has cost Iran an astronomic figure of one trillion
dollars ($1,000,000,000,000). All such agreements, if they are
to take place, must have the total approval and blessing of the
Iranian people. The actions and arrangements of these two regimes
will be contrary to the national interests and the stability of
the region.
Q: The People's Mojahedin of Iran (PMOI) have been successful
in attracting the attention of some members of the congress. Could
this be considered as recognizing them as an alternative?
A: The ultimate decision in regards to an alternative for the
existing regime, rests with the people of Iran. PMOI's efforts
in the U.S. Congress are the consequence of the silence which
the majority of the expatriates have opted - for. PMOI have noticeably
increased their efforts since the sanctions were put in effect.
They have attached unrealistic hopes to the sanctions, namely,
that these sanctions would be the thrusting tide in bringing them
to power in Iran. They are far from the truth with such erroneous
imaginations, notwithstanding the fact they continue to alter
their tactics. Their strategy remains the same, however. They
remain in total darkness when it comes to recognizing the psyche
of the Iranian people and their nationalism. They disregard the
political mutations and realities in the world. While being under
the total control of the Iraqi regime, they are between a rock
and a hard place. Young members of the PMOI who generally are
patriotic and love their nation, are misguided by their leadership
in a direction contrary to the interests of their motherland.
Such members live in a world of doubts and, due to an undemocratic
report card in the West, their new tactics remain fruitless also.
In Iran, the people have become totally weary and dubious about
them.
The leaders of the PMOI have lied to and misguided their
followers and thus, resorting to old tactics is merely futile.
Their true nature, a religious political cult which believes in
the "end sanctifying the means", and one that would
resort to anything in coming to power, will not change regardless
of the frequency of their chameleon-like tactics. The Armed Forces
of Iran could not forgive the co-operation of the PMOI with the
Iraqi forces. Now, the PMOI's efforts are channeled into portraying
themselves in U.S. as a totally democratic organization which
intends to gain the support of the Americans. They are indeed
incorrect in this assessment also since, firstly, the world has
changed and even if the U.S. were to officially back the PMOI,
they could not come to power in -Tian because any organization/leadership
who aspires to do so must have the consent and mandate of the
populace, secondly, the era of U.S. electing, supporting and bringing
to power a certain person or persons, is long gone. We live in
the era of instantaneous communications, an era of new knowledge
and technology and one of "GEO-INFORMATION". People
have become more aware and are more cognizant. No longer can any
force, bring to power a person or group who lacks the popular
support. Therefore notwithstanding the fact that the moral and
principled support of U.S. could not harm a democratic person
or group, it must also be kept in mind that this support however
strong, would be in vain if it does not coincide with the will
of the populace. The U.S administration and its Congress are generally
aware of this political reality. Young members of the PMOI who
are well intentioned and patriotic ought to refrain from being
manipulated in carrying out the cultic wishes of their leaders.
Q: Let's talk about the AZADEGAN FOUNDATION. When did it start
and how would you characterize its activities?
A: As you know, the name AZADEGAN which appears repeatedly in
the epic Shahnameh of Ferdousi, is synonymous with "Iranians".
We have chosen this name in commemoration of the late nationalist
and scholar, General Dr. Bahram Aryana and the Liberation Army
of Iran. AZADEGAN in essence is a political movement. Shortly
after the 1979 revolution and the usurping of power by the clerics,
Dr. Aryana and myself along with a few civilian and military compatriots,
founded the AZADEGAN Organization in Paris. The purpose of the
Organization was the liberation of Iran from the despotic and
regressive rule of the clerics, and the establishment of a democracy
in Iran. With the passing of Aryana in 1985 in exile, the torch
dimmed and the activities of the Organization came to a standstill.
Last year, we re-ignited the torch. AZADEGAN has a monthly publication
in English, by the name of "FOCUS ON IRAN". Its goal
is to portray for the world, a realistic picture of the political
mutations caused by the theocracy in Iran and, to attract the
moral and high-minded support of the democratic societies in regards
to the Iranian people and their rightful aspirations and struggles
for liberty. We believe that although the key to the salvation
of Iran remains solely in the hands of its people, but the moral
support of the "world opinion" for the Iranians in regards
to the dismissal of this brutal despotic regime, is also necessary.
Q: Describe the current situation of Iran in the region.
A: Iran due to its size, population, strategic situation, natural
resources and cultural identity, enjoys an exceptional status
in the region. Nonetheless, she is unable to play her important
role in that region. This is due to the fact that a tremendous
rift exists between the government and the governed. The former,
has abandoned its fundamental, traditional and historical role
and has adopted "religion" as the basis of its foreign
policy. The close relationships extant between Iran, N. Korea
and China along with the selection of futile defence policies,
efforts in seeking nuclear arms, and supporting terrorism are
all examples which have worked to diminish Iran's vital role around
the globe and in the region to the point of total isolation. CONOCO,
cancelled its agreements with Iran due to the pressures from the
White House. The Azarbaijan consortium went on to exclude Iran
in a degrading manner. The economic sanctions have also added
insult to the these injuries. Therefore, due to the incompetence
of the political leaders in Iran, all of the strategic, geographic,
economic and political privileges of the nation have now been
altered to become its detriments. Iran can, and indeed must be
the main political axis of the region, it ought to be influential
in all the Middle Eastern, Central Asian, and Caucasian issues,
contributing to the stability of these vast regions. Unfortunately,
the choices made by the current leadership are quite contrary
to the above aims. Our primary national and security interests
have been also victimized by such ill-intentioned policies.
Q: As you know, the economical conditions in Iran are worsening
by the day. Are there any hopes of recovery?
A: With the continuation and existence of the Islamic Republic,
the answer to your question is a resounding No! Economically speaking,
Iran is a totally bankrupt nation. Penury, prostitution, unemployment
and inflation
have all reached explosive levels. The damages due to the 8 year
war with Iraq have not been redressed yet. Rial, the Iranian currency,
has completely lost its value. Another yet vital issue, is the
deficit in the budget and a foreign debt exceeding $40,000,000,000.
Every year, Iran must import 12 to 14 billion dollars worth of
foodstuff. Chemical fertilizers and industrial products are also
imported. The oil industry, namely the maintenance of its wells
and other petrochemical installations require an annual budget
of 5 billion dollars. Iran must also annually pay 6 billion dollars
to meet the "principal & interest" payments of its
loans. No one knows how the Islamic Republic intends to deal with
such catastrophic economic conditions and its political isolation.
Most notable is that Iran's population, under no planning or control,
leaped from 34 to 67 million and that under circumstances void
of any insight for their cultural, health and food requirements.
The continuation of these conditions could lead to an immense
social explosion. In my opinion, the main condition for an economic
emendation, lies in a political change. This is the only remedy
and hope.
Q: Some are of the belief that through reform, the political
and economic situations could be improved. What are your views
in that regard?
A: The thought that this regime would change its ways, or that
one could have hopes in some moderate elements in and about the
regime, is indeed a futile one. Everyone knows that as long as
the mullahs are in power nothing would change and there could
not be any hope of reform or improvement. The Iranian people are
not thinking of anything short of the removal of the clerical
regime and its replacement with a national government, and they
would not consent to anything else. Those who advocate reform,
and speak of free elections in the framework of the "Velayate
Faqih - the Governance of the Supreme Theologian" and the
continuation of the clerical rule, knowingly or inadvertently
are aiding the salvation of a system which is clearly on its last
legs. All changes in this regard, ought to be fundamental and
essential and not merely tactical. The people of Iran both inside
and outside, have reached a new era in their opposition. The crisis
of reliance is on the rise amongst the intelligence organizations
and the Armed Forces. A large number of clerical and spiritual
leaders, such as Ayatollah Rohani, Ayatollah Qomi and others are
at odds with the religious oligarchy in power. Public dissatisfaction
is reaching its limits. Such mutations will cause the opposition
inside and outside of Iran to opt for new strategies in aiding
the people who wish to rid themselves of this regime, replacing
it with a democratic government of their choice. Is it not true
that 17 years have provided ample time and opportunity to institute
and cant' out economic and social reforms 7 Ironically, during
this period instead of positive efforts towards betterment, the
nation has been pushed to the extreme brinks of bankruptcy. Fortunately,
the public opinions inside and outside, are prepared to dismiss
the mullahs regime. To accomplish the latter, there is hardly
any need for any pre-organized existing group, rather it is in
need of a catalyst to regulate and guide the struggles. This catalyst
should materialize in the near future, either inside or outside
of Iran. What is vital of course, is that this change must take
place peacefully and without any bloodshed, however we do recognize
that it is not in the nature of this regime to make any concessions.
The unprecedented military maneuvers of June 14, in the southern
part of Tehran, dubbed as "Ashoora Maneuvers", consisting
of 120,000 Revolutionary Guards and other mechanized brigades
and commando forces, speak volumes of the fact that the regime
is not willing to change its ways and continues to flex its military
muscle for the unarmed citizens of Tehran. Usually, military maneuvers
are performed against a hypothetical enemy, and even then, they
are carried out close to the borders and far away from the cities.
This maneuver, the advent of which appeared on the headlines of
all the government-controlled newspapers, is condemnable from
the viewpoint of public opinion, both inside and outside of Iran.
It clearly demonstrates that the clerical regime is unstable and
quite concerned about the uprisings in the large capitol. Such
policies, namely these futile military and political maneuvers,
will indeed have the opposite effect. It would not be unlikely
for the 1989 events of Romania to re-occur in Iran also. As you
know, up until the latter parts of December 1989, Romania was
well under the control and scrutiny of its police and security
forces. There were no organized opposition elements and, no-one
suspected that the conditions were about to change, however, on
December 17th, there was a "spark" in the city of Timisoara,
and a hundred people were killed in that incident. It took merely
3 days for the unrest to devour the rest of Romania, thrusting
the Armed Forces to shift their loyalty from their despotic regime
to the people. We all know of the consequent events. The hatred
and detestation that the Iranian people have towards the clerical
regime is by far more intense than the one Romanians had towards
the Ceausescu's regime. Nonetheless new struggles have commenced
between the people and the government. The people there, are keeping
an eye on the Armed Forces. The effective role of the Armed Forces,
the youth, and the Bazaar which is the foundation of Iran's economy
and also the role of women in these national resistances will
be crucial.
Q: You mentioned the role of women, what could be their contribution
in this path, and what is their stature in gaining democracy and
liberty fur Iran?
A: Women could have an important and effective role. Throughout
history, they have never been mistreated to the extent of these
past 16 years. Their rights have never been violated to the degree
it is being violated now. Islamic Republic has trampled the civil,
political and social rights of the Iranian women. To remove such
unprecedented atrocities and tyrannies, men and women, in my opinion,
ought to fight back, shoulder to shoulder. The solution lies in
the removal of the current regime and Iranian women must not only
have a fundamental and constructive role in that regard but they
should also be in the leadership ranks. It is indeed a disgrace
that on the thresholds of the 21st century, where men and women
ought to have an active and equal role in the betterment of their
nation, such contemptuous attitudes are taken towards women in
]ran. Women should be the front-runners in this national resistance
and must not refrain from any self-sacrifice in the path of removing
the clerical regime. Their efforts should become the model and
the guiding light for setting the resistance policy.
In my opinion,
we will not accomplish anything worthwhile without the active
and serious participation of women in our national struggle. In
our new world, women are not only the speakers of the family but
they are also the guardians of the family traditions working and
participating in social responsibilities as effectively as men.
The Iranian women should be totally un-shackled from the restrictions
laid upon them by lire clerics. They ought to be free in selecting
whatever profession they desire. They should be free in making
their decisions and in enjoying the merits of economic independence.
The choice of clothing, is an absolute right of women and ought
not be imposed on them. These nefarious, contemptuous, backward
and tyrannical heresies must come to an end and this could only
be realized when the wretched life of the Islamic Republic is
brought to an end by the noble and cooperative efforts of Iranian
men and women who wish to live in a progressive and free Iran,
one rebuilt to provide tranquillity and security for its citizens
on the verge of the 21 st century.